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|Throughout this page, you will see the name Lorry Labate. Lorry was one of the first "lost" cousins that I found after beginning my genealogy research. He helped me identify many photos and connected me with many more cousins from Ely. Lorry died on 4 Apr 2008 of a heart attack at his home in Carson City, NV. Everyone from SPA will miss him.|
Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:21:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lorry Labate
Subject: Ely, Nevada
I have a stack of E-Mails from you to respond to, but I'll start with the Ely Geography. It is located in East central Nevada about 70 miles from the Utah border.
Ely was the Copper Mining center of Nevada from about 1906 to 1962. It is the county seat of White Pine County. At it's height, the entire county only had about 10,000 residents, Ely about 7,000. The copper was mined at Ruth , 7 miles west of Ely where at one time it was the largest open pit mine in the world. The ore was transported by train thru Ely to the refinery in McGill, 12 miles east of Ely. The low grade ore was milled and smelted into copper ingots by Kennecott Copper Corporation.
East Ely was location of the Nevada Northern Railway which brought freight and passengers to Ely from Cobre a couple hundred miles north of Ely where the Nevada Northern intersected the Southern Pacific Railroad between Elko and Wendover. My father was an Engineer with the Nevada Northern. Most of the sampietrese worked for the railroad. I cannot recall any who worked in the mines at Ruth or the refinery at McGill. There were many Calabrese and Barese in Ruth and Kimberly and Reiptown. The area was quite a cosmopolitan mining camp. McGill had a Greek Town, and there were Serbians, Croats, Austrians, Germans. Ely had Chinese, Japanese, Italians, Greeks, Mexicans, native Americans, and a large population of Mormons. Ely and East Ely blend into one another. The sampietrese immigrants lived exclusively in East Ely and central Ely which is a part of Ely.
I do not know the wards, but don't bother with anything other than Ely and East Ely. If I were to guess, I would start with East Ely and 3rd ward, then 2nd ward, and 1st ward. All of the other places you mentioned are outlying areas. A couple of names in East Ely to get you on track would be Ricci, Mariani, DiCianno. Central Ely, Labate, Acquafondata, Diullo, Settefrati, Lombardi, Disanza, Rossolo.
Ely is on highway 50 (The Loneliest Road in the World). Elko is about 190 miles north of Ely on Interstate 80. To my knowledge, it had no sampietrese. It was a cattle town. The Italians you would find in Elko County would be located in Cobre which I mentioned above was the terminus of the Nevada Northern.
There are a number of web sites for Ely. Try http://webpanda.com.
Hope this helps.
"Ricordo della tua comare ed compare.
"Remember your godfather and godmother
Filiberto and Rosina"
Filiberto and Rosina Diullo
(Ely, NV, originally from San Pietro)
My mother did not remember who these people were. I put the photos on this web page and they were identified by Lorry Labate. See emails below.
My mother says that in Italy, the title godmother and godfather would be passed down. If they were your parents' godfather and godmother, you also would call them godfather and godmother (comare and compare). Filiberto and Rosina's parents may have been my grandmother's godparents. According to my mother they were not anybody elses godparents.
Lorry sent me a link which helped me find what is probably Filiberto's WWI Draft registration in White Pine County, NV (location of Ely)
"Di Tullo, Filiberto 16 Mar 1888 White S. Pietro a Vellona Italy"
Dorothy and Rosina Diullo
Taken when Dorothy was in Junior High School.
East Ely, NV
Aug 27, 1937
Identified by Lorry Labate. See emails below.
1925 Filiberto diIullo and Family
I received this photo from Dorothy diIullo Carrick who still lives in Ely. We visited her in May 2005.
Rosina Rossi, wife
Filiberto diIullo, husband
Guido, oldest son, born 1912 in SPA
Dorothy, middle daughter, born 1920 in Ely
Marion, youngest son, born 1923 in Ely
Date is a guess by Dorothy who let me scan the photo. Taken in Ely, NV. Dorothy was born in 1920 and appears to be about 5 years old in this photo.
You can see Filiberto's (Albert) and Rosina's tombstone on the Ely Cemetery web page.
The folks on the two photos above were identified by Lorry Labate. I got this series of emails from Lorry:
I stumbled on your website and was pleased to see some photos of Ely, Nevada with familiar names. I hope you can help me as I am trying to trace my maternal roots.
My mother was Francesca Carlini, b. 2/16/1895 in Ateleta, she and my father, Loreto Labate (from San Pietro Avellano) were childhood sweethearts. But she was shipped to America to be married to Carmine Acquafondata and had 6 children. To make a long story short, Carmine was killed in a railroad accident in Ely, and my father helped Mom care for the kids during the depression and later married her in 1935 and I came along in 1938. I grew up in Ely. I knew all of the sampietrese. But I do not recall any Carlini.
I believe my Mom's father, was Carmine Carlini.
Loreto Labate, Jr.
In your E-mail, awhile back, you mentioned that you were going to contact Clara Carlini. I wonder if you had heard from her? I am trying to verify if her grandfather Giuseppe and my grandfather Carmine were brothers.
You web site is fantastic. I have learned a lot and it has helped me in my quest. In your "unknown" photo section there is one of Filberto and Rosina. I believe they are Diullo's (sampietrese) who lived a few house away from my parents in Ely, Nevada. I am trying to verify. The writing translates to say "Remember your godfather and godmother". The photo on the right, the person on the left, appears to be their daughter, Dorothy, who was my godmother.
Also, I have placed a phone call to Norma Carlini, daughter of Felice who learned lives in Elko, Nevada. I left a message on her recorder. If I am successful, I will let you know.
|Mark, yes, Carmine would be in the same time frame
Francesca was born 2/16/1895. Mom had a sister Assunta b.
6/1983, who married my dad's uncle Dominic Labate, 2nd marriage.
I did call and speak with Norma in Elko, a very sweet lady, but she could not help. She remembers the DiVecchios though. She told me Toddino passed away 6/1/2002, Joseph in 1997, and Dora 6/3/1999. Mark, let me verify the photos before you put the data on the website. I will contact my Godmother in Ely. Maybe I can get some other photos from her.
By the way, Norma told me that Clara lives here in Carson City, Nevada, where I live. She gave me her address and phone number, so I will be contacting her. I tried today, but no one answered.
I did speak with my God mother, Dorothy Diullo Carrick. She viewed the photos and verified they were her parents, Filiberto and Rosina. The 1937 picture is of Dorothy and Rosina when Dorothy was a junior in high school. The photo on the left is a much later photo of Rosina and Filiberto.
Dorothy did not know who the godchild was. It is possible they were godparents in Italy, as you will note their first child, Eugene (Guido) was born there. I am attaching a file on the Diullo line. Marion Diullo is my Godfather.
Have you heard from Clara Carlini Barredo? She has not returned my phone call. I did speak with Norma Carlini on the phone, but she was unable to remember.
I have since found that Rosina Vincenza Rossi is my
cousin. Lorry sent
me a family tree that Dennis Diullo made up. Dennis is Dorothy's
nephew. Our common ancestors are Giuseppe Frazzini and Felicia
Colajanni. See the Family Tree
is a picture of Felix
Carlini and my Grandfather, Filiberto Diullo.
there is Dora,
Norma, can't remember the name of the boy to the right
and Todd in the front.
It is so good to hear from you and I received the two photos that you sent. I am going to send them to my mother. Felix was her uncle.
I originally received some information about you from Lorry Labate. He sent me a copy of a family tree which showed your grandmother and grandfather.
That all started when Lorry saw two photos that I had posted on my web site. They were photos that my mother had (from her mother). My mother did not remember who the people were but Lorry recognized Filiberto, Rosina and their daughter Dorothy (who was his godmother). This was later confirmed by Dorothy herself.
Did you see those photos? On my web page .
With that information, I was able to see that you and I are 4th cousins. Related through our 3G grandparents Giuseppe Giulio Frazzini and Felicia Colajanni (great grandparents of your grandmother Rosina).
I don't know how close were my grandmother and Rosina. I don't remember my grandmother speaking of her. But whatever it was, my grandmother had those two photos.
Do you have any idea when those two photos were taken?
On the photo of the Carlini children, they had two boys (Joseph and Todd) and three girls (Dora, Norma and Clara). Clara is the only one from the family that I ever met but she is not in that photo - probably not born yet.
I've copied Lorry on this email.
Attached is a picture of who I believe is Lucrezia Frazzini and her son Paul. On the bottom of the picture is written "comare 1937" on the back of the photo is written "Alla comare Rosina di Iullo" There is a stamped date of July 12, 1937.
(Mark's note: the photo he sent was taken at the same time as this photo.)
Hope these pictures are a help to you.
Bet you are sick of me now. On your web site you had a picture of Emiliano. You said that was the youngest picture you had of him. Well I think I can top that with this one. Found it in the family album. It is a postcard picture, which was popular of the times. As you can see the postmark is Youngstown, Ohio August 29, 1917 and he signed it. Apparently my grandparents and yours were very close in Italy. I am still looking through your family tree and there may be some mistakes in the tree I provided Lorry.
I can't thank you enough for sending these photos.
Ever since I started my genealogy research, I've been hoping that I would come across someone who could give me some hints about what my grandfather Emiliano did in his years in the USA before he brought my grandmother and mother over in 1926.
You have been the first person who had this kind of information.
The last photo you sent of Emiliano was fantastic. NO ONE in my family had a photo of him that early. And I never knew that he was in Youngstown, OH. This photo definitely pre-dates the photo that I have on my web site.
I am going to forward your email to my mother - she will be thrilled to see this.
I would would love to see any other photos or letters that your family might have of him or any of my relatives.
The previous photo of my grandmother Lucrezia and my uncle Paul was probably taken at his first communion. I have a similar photo, taken at the same time, with the two of them and my mother, Benilda. Your photo, though, has a year on it, something I didn't know before. The other photo is on my Aunts and Uncles page:
My mom, by the way, is also going to be 93 years old this year. My dad is going to be 88 years old.
Maybe someday in the future, I could visit you and your father to see these photos in person.
Our grandparents must have been close but I wonder what the relationship was. From my family tree data, I can see that Rosina Vincenza Rossi and Lucrezia Carlini are 2nd cousins and I don't know any relationship of Filiberto and Emiliano. So maybe it was some kind of baptism godmother/godfather relationship.
Regarding your comment that your father was Lorry's godfather, not his brother Marion - the comment in my file is directly from Lorry. I'll have to ask him about that.
If you do see anything wrong in my tree data, let me know and I'll correct it right away. As I mentioned, most of it is from a file I received via Lorry which he said he got from you.
If there is anything I can do for you, let me know.
You have really helped me out too. This is the first time I have really been able to unlock the family history in this album. I have found more pictures of your mother and grandmother in the album. One I identified from a picture on your web site of three girls, one being your mother. Looks like it was taken in a photo booth. I have a single picture of your mom from the same booth at the same time. I was able to identify the hat she was wearing. The pictures of your mother are small portraits taken when she was very young and definitely in Italy. Apparently our grandparents were close friends in Italy. I know that Emiliano's picture was next to a portrait of my grandfathers in the album. My Dad has no recollection of your Mom or Grandmother. They were pictures in the album that no one could identify. I think I will ask Dorothy what she knows since she was involved with the original construction of the album.
Hopefully you will be able to visit. I live in a beautiful setting, Lake Tahoe and would love to visit with you and your wife. Let me know if you ever get an urge to come here. I have a guest room waiting for you.
Sorry I have not gotten back to you sooner but I have been down with the flu and trying to keep up with work at the same time.
I noticed that I have the same first communion picture of your mother as you have on your web site. I talked to my Aunt about your family and she remembers the Frazzini name but related it to Colorado.
The one small picture of your mother has her name as I spelled it on the title on the back of the photo.
I have to spend some time titling my personal photo album in case someone cares later on.
I may get some more pictures from my Aunt, that were taken in Italy. They may provide more clues as to the relationship of your grandparents and mine.
The photos were great. I emailed them to my mother and talked to her today. She was very pleased to see them. She is trying to remember the details of when/where/why they were taken. Bits and pieces were coming back to her. I also let all of her other close relatives know about them.
Here is a good picture to fill in that space on Paul's Page.
You might want to contact my Aunt Dorothy in Ely. She is the one that was in the picture with Rosie. She also has lots of pictures from Italy in the basement. I am trying to plan a trip to Ely to look over the pictures but you will beat me there. I have not been to Ely in probably 25 years. I heard that the place has really changed since I was there last. It was always a fun time staying with my Grandmother. She spoiled me rotten. She would make a fried bread with anise and raisins, which I enjoyed very much. She usually made them for Christmas only but when I visited there was always some for breakfast with coffee milk. Have fun and report back on your trip.
|1923 : Motive Power and Car Department|
|F. Carlini||Car Repairman||$5.28/day|
|Fred Ricci||Repairman 2nd Class||$4.64/day|
|F. DiIullo||Repairman 2nd Class||$4.64/day|
|John Mariani||CR Helper||$4.00/day|
|L. Labate||Boilermaker Helper||$4.08/day|
|1923 : Maintenance of Way Department - Section Gang 14 East Ely|
|1936 : Motive Power and Car Department|
|Felix Carlini||Car Inspector
|A. Iannacchione||Car Repairman||$5.76/day|
|Fred Ricci||Car Repairman||$5.76/day|
|John Mariani||Car Repairman 2nd
|F. DiIullo||Car Repairman 2nd Class||$5.12/day|
|Herman Carlini||Boiler washer||$4.24/day|
|L. Labate||Car Inspector Cobre||$165/mo|
|1936 : Maintenance of Way Department - Section Gang 10 East Ely|
|1936 : Transportation Department|
|Mike Fondi||Abstract Clerk||$145/mo|
|1939 : Motive Power and Car Department|
|Herman Carlini||Machinist Helper||$4.75/day|
|Felix Carlini||Car Repairman Helper||$4.75/day|
|Charles Basso||Staty Fire (Stationary
|O. Dilorenzo||Car Repairman Helper||$4.75/day|
|Amedeo diCianno||Boiler washer||$4.64/day|
|John Mariani||AB Repairman||$6.16/day|
|1939 : Maintenance of Way Department - Section Gang iiibMM0 East Ely|
|1939 : B&B Department|
|In 1987, John Mariani appeared in a train video, "Ghost Train". He was interviewed along with several other former employees of the Nevada Northern Railway.|
|Published on Friday, October 15, 2004
Ely Times- October is 'Giovanni Mariani' month in White Pine County
October is "Giovanni Mariani" month in White Pine County. Chairman of the County Commission Paul Johnson, read the proclamation, Wednesday Oct. 13.
The proclamation was to honor Mariani's 100 birthday, long time residence in White Pine County and the many contributions that he and his family have made to the area. A bell made near Mariani's home town in San Pietro Avellana, Italy was presented to the city by the Mayor Antonio Di Ludovico, in a ceremony last week in honor of the connection between the two cities. The bell was then displayed for the public to see. A display case is planed to be made for the bell so it can be displayed in various places around White Pine County.
|Published on Friday, June 23, 2006
John Mariani and George Muscato named July 4 Parade co-marshals
Two people share this year's July 4 Parade Grand Marshall Honor.
Giovanni “John” Mariani and George Muscato have been selected by the Great Basin Service Club.
Mariani was born in San Pietro Avellana, Italy, in 1904. He landed in New York in 1921, having come over by ship. At that time he could not speak a word of English. It took him 4 days and 5 nights to arrive in Ogden, Utah. In May 1922 he took the train to Ely where he worked for the Nevada Northern Railway.
He was called back to Italy and served in the Italian Army in 1924. On June 21, 1925, he married Rosina DiFlorio. In 1926 he returned to Ely and later made several trips to Italy to visit his family, before his wife and two children joined him in Ely in 1935. Two children later were born to the couple in the U.S.
Mariani obtained his United States citizenship on Sept. 19, 1931.
He worked for the Nevada Northern Railway for 47 years, retiring in 1969. After he retired he worked as a hobby for his son, who managed the Central Theatre. He even worked occasionally when the new owners took over, leaving this hobby to become the permanent caregiver for his ailing wife (Mark's note: Rosina diFlorio Mariani died in 1998). Mariani has many grandchildren and great-grandchildren, but only one great grandson lives in Ely, Roman Mariani.
Muscato was born in Dunkirk, N.Y., in 1913. He came to the Ely area in 1937 with the Civil Conservation Corp and worked in the Steptoe Valley area. In 1939 he married Louise Kogan and they made their home in Ely. Their union produced five children: two girls and 3 boys. All their children were raised and educated in Ely. Muscato worked for the Grazing Service for a short time and then went to work for the transportation department, now known as the Nevada Department of Transportation. He retired in 1996 after working for the NDOT for 37 years. His hobbies include gardening, fishing and his grandchildren. He has nine grandchildren and two great grandchildren. Only one grandchild lives in Ely, Thomas Ashworth.
Join the Great Basin Service Club in honoring these two long-term residents of the community.
|Looking south from route 93 just north of Ely.|
Mark DiVecchio and Dorothy diIullo Carrick
Taken in front of Dorothy's home in Ely, NV
|Ancestral home of
and Letizia diSanza.
260 Fay Ave
We met the woman who bought and still lives in this house.
She bought it in 1947 from Marva Slight, the granddaughter of Felice and Letizia.
|Loreto ”Lorry” Labate, 70, of
Carson City, NV passed away
Friday, April 4, 2008. Lorry was born January 2, 1938 in Ely, NV to
Loreto and Francesca (Carlini Acquafondata) Labate. He worked for the
State of Nevada until his retirement in 1994. He was an avid hunter and
fisherman. In 1990, Lorry married Laverne Hembree and they enjoyed many
years of gardening, golfing, travel and precious time with their family
Lorry is preceded in death by his son, Mark Labate. He is survived by his daughter Laurie (Lee) Van Epps; son, John (Kim) Labate; daughter-in-law, Laura Labate; step-son Gary (Charlene) Hembree; step- daughter, Gayle (Bill) Rankin; eleven grandchildren, 1 great grandson and many other relatives and friends whom will miss him dearly.
Services are scheduled for Friday, April 11, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. at St. Teresa of Avila Catholic Church, 3000 North Lompa Ln., Carson, City, NV 89706.
From Reno Gazette Journal 9 Apr 2008
Calaizzi, Cesare 7 Nov 1895 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Calaizzi, Oreste 31 Dec 1893 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Calaronni, Periggio 10 Oct 1878 W rel. lives S. Pietro Avell. Italy White Pine NV
Carlini, Domenico Maurizio 13 Dec 1884 W rel. lives S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Carlini, Felice 26 Feb 1895 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Colaianni, Amico 28 Jan 1881 W wife lives S.Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Colaizzi, Cesare 7 Nov 1895 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Colaizzi, Vincenzo 27 Aug 1888 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Della Croce, Libario 26 Jul 1874 W rel. lives S. Pietro Arellona Italy White Pine NV
Di Florio, Michele 8 May 1880 W bro.lives S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Record shows brother Erensto diFlorio in SPA
Di Sanza, Edmondo 21 Oct 1898 W rel. lives S.Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Sanza, Edmondo di 21 Oct 1898 W rel.lives S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Di Sanza, Ortenzio 15 Aug 1875 W wife lives S.Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Di Tullo, Filiberto 16 Mar 1888 W S. Pietro a Vellona Italy White Pine NV
Dicianno, Romoaldo 10 Aug 1877 W rel.lives S.Pietro D Vellano Italy White Pine NV
Ditanza, Ortenzio 15 Aug 1875 W wife lives S.Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Mariani, Incoronato 21 Apr 1875 W rel. in S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
Settefrati, Ersenio 15 Apr 1892 W S. Pietro Avellana Italy White Pine NV
||Date Arrived in US
||Town in Italy
||16 May 1913
||brother-in-law Deo Carlini, 41
East, Ely, NV,
wife in SPA - Concetta Carlini
||3 May 1912
||going to New Jersey, can't read the
Traveled with Amico della Croce, previously in US 1904-8, Ogden, Utah,
wife in SPA - Rosina Rossi (both his line and Amico's line in the
manifest were lined through).
||25 May 1904
||going to cousin Mariano diTullo,
||Date Arrived in US
||Town in Italy
|Tomasso diTella||15 Feb 1921||35||SPA||wife in SPA: Ernestina diFlorio.
Previous in Ely from 1905 to 1911. Going to
Settefrati in Ely, NV. Could not find him in 1886, may have been born
in 1885, a year which the records are missing. I do not know if he is
related to me since I don't know his parents.
(Ersenio Settefrati is listed in the WWI Draft Registration listing above)
|DOMENICK DISANZA||24 Jan 1898||Jun 1974||89301 (Ely, White Pine, NV)||(none specified)||700-05-5383||Long-time or retired railroad workers|
|EDWARD DISANZA||27 May 1921||26 Jan 2000 (P)||(72)||(none specified)||712-01-3941||Long-time or retired railroad workers|
|Grooms First Name||Federico|
|Grooms Last Name||RICCI|
|Brides First Name||Mafalta|
|Brides Last Name||IANNACCHIONI|
|County of Record||White Pine Co., Nevada|
|Place of Marriage||Ely|
|Date of Marriage||10 Jan 1928|
|Grooms First Name||Dominick|
|Grooms Last Name||PICCININ|
|Brides First Name||Tanita|
|Brides Last Name||LABATE|
|County of Record||White Pine Co., Nevada|
|Place of Marriage||Ely|
|Date of Marriage||11 Jun 1923|
Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:07:12 -0600
From: Valentine, Rayna
Subject: San Pietro connection
Hello from a shirt-tail relative! I was checking the internet for some information about the current state of the "ancestral village" of San Pietro and saw a link to the Ely Cemetery website you created. It was great to take a walk down memory lane to see your pictures of the headstones. My family traveled to Ely several times when I was younger and I spent many hours at Aunt Rosie's (Uncle Al was dead) eating huge meals and visiting with Dorothy's 2 kids and with Marion Diullo and his wife Zelda. Domenic LaBate's sister is still alive--her last name is Kusmeric--and she has moved from Nevada after a hideous accident which cost her both legs.
My grandmother Dorantina Rossi Colaianni was the sister of Rosina Rossi Diullo, wife of Albert. Grandma and her fiancé, Adelmo Colaianni left San Pietro, traveled to Denver to visit a cousin, (Cinea family), went to Pike's Peak where grandpa worked in the mines, then finally came to Pocatello, Idaho, to work in the Star Grocery owned by his father and his brother Antonio Colaianni. Antonio and Adelmo's sister Josephine stayed in Youngstown and married a LaBate. My mother's oldest sister, Mary, has done some genealogical research and has a "minimalist" family tree for Grandma (Rossi) Colaianni's side. I'll try to get a decent digital photo of it and email it to you if you're interested. She also has photo albums with some fun old pix of the older Italian relatives--and one of the ones from Shirley that you show looks familiar to me.
Must get a couple of things finished before I leave work. Send me a reply if you'd like to have the photo of the family tree (doesn't show kids, just husbands and wives).
|From: Mark DiVecchio
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:10 AM
To: Valentine, Rayna
Subject: Re: San Pietro connection
Thanks for your email.
As you may have read, Filiberto (Albert) and Rosina were somehow very good friends with my grandfather, Emiliano Frazzini. I had a chance to look at Filiberto's photo album (in the possession right now of their grandson Dennis Diullo). In that album were photos of my family from 1917 to 1945. Photos that members of my family either never saw or don't remember. I have many of those photos of my family on the web site. Rosina is related to me.
And here, you are related to Rosina. Do you know Dennis? He would be a cousin of some sort. When my wife and I were in Reno a month ago, we met Marion and Dorothy's brother, Gene and in Ely a couple of months ago, we met Dorothy. I believe that Marion now lives in Las Vegas.
I am always interested in any information about the countrymen from San Pietro Avellana.
For the web site, I'd be interested in any photos that you think might be of interest to others.
A quick look at the 1920 census shows Antonio Colaianni, Dorantina, 5 children, brother Tini(?) and father Emidio. I can email you this census sheet if you haven't seen it.
If you have time, I'd love to hear more about your family.
Wed, 03 Aug 2005 12:15:30 -0600
From: "Valentine, Rayna"
Subject: RE: San Pietro connection
I do know Dennis, his 2 brothers, and his father Gene and mother Lena. They visited my folks and we visited them many years ago, also. I haven't talked to Lena for about a year. The woman I call "Aunt Rosie" was my mother's aunt because she was the sister of Mom's mother Dorantina, so she's a direct relative of mine, while Uncle Albert was an "in-law." Rosie's younger son, Mom's cousin Marion, lives in Overton, Nevada, just a bit outside of Las Vegas. Uncle Dean, another of my grandmother Dorantina's children, lived in Las Vegas until April when he died. He actually lived with Uncle Albert and Aunt Rosie in Ely for his high school years so was very closely connected to Gene and Marion and Dorothy.
I forgot to tell you that there's one piece of info on the children of Daniele and Maria Rossi that needs to be altered: the name of the one child is a male, Domenico, not Domenica, and he was the father of Rina, Licia, and Mimo Rossi, all of whom, except great-uncle Dom, are still alive and living in Rome or Campobasso. I can provide you with some birth dates of Dorantina and Adelmo's children, too, to round out your info.
Another brother, Italo Rossi died in 1973, but his 2 daughters Daniela and Luciana are still alive and living in Rome. We just reconnected with them. I email them fairly often and am planning a trip to visit them in San Pietro where they spend every August)next August if all goes well--which is why I was on the internet looking up SPA and found your Ely Cemetery site. They still have an apartment in SPA, but it's tiny and we'll have to stay elsewhere. Did you find a hotel nearby? Did you know that the town fountain was built by some Colaianni relatives of mine (and therefore your shirtail relatives through Rosina, too?)
The Mary Lacy referred to in your charts is the oldest child of Dorantina Rossi and Adelmo Colaianni, and is my mother's sister. Mary is still alive at 92, but is in early stages of senile dementia so her memory is very unreliable but I have her photograph albums. Aren't those old photos awesome!
My grandmother Dorantina and her husband Adelmo lived in Pocatello, Idaho, on North 12th with Adelmo's brother, Antonio (who was always called Tony and is probably mis-listed as "Tini") and Adelmo's father, my great-grandfather Emidio Colaianni, and their children. In 1920, the kids would have been Gene, Mary, Dean, Viola (my mother) and Albert. Ray and Virginia, the last 2 children were born after 1920. All but Mary and Ray are deceased. I'd love to see the census sheet! I know next to nothing about tracing family history, how to interpret family trees, etc., but I've become really interested in family history lately--a bit late since my aunts and uncles have died or have failing memories, and was very excited to see what you've done.
One thing that has me puzzled is that there seems to be a record of "Colaianni" being spelled with a "j"--there's no "j" in the Italian alphabet, so it's likely that the "j" is a misreading of someone's handwriting, don't you think? My mother, for instance, was actually named ElsaIola but the Americans couldn't read Grandma's continental letters so was called Elsie Viola, much to her chagrin because Borden's milk used to have advertisements featuring Elsie the contented cow!
I'd love to hear how you got to SPA, etc. and share some more info with you. Also, I discovered last night that I can take the family tree paperwork that Aunt Mary did out of its frame fairly easily, so can scan it and send it to you. It will be interesting to see if spellings match up, etc.
Thanks for replying so quickly.
I entered your data into my family tree program and according to the program: "Rayna Valentine and Mark Camillo DiVecchio are 4th cousins. Their common ancestors are Giuseppe Giulio Frazzino and Felicia Colajanni"
Not that shirt-tail after all. Take a look at the simplified ancestor chart, attached.
Interesting to hear about Mary Lacy. Do you know Ellie Ferrero? I don't remember right off how they are related.
Attached is the census sheet. I understand that "A. Colaianni" is really Adelmo, not Antonio as I mentioned in my last email. I'm sure the 'Tini' is Tony.
Your mother's name is written in the census pretty much like a short version of her Italian name.
As for the 'j', it was really a 'j'. In the records from SPA, the 'j' was the common spelling through the late 1800's. Then over a period of time, it changed to 'i'. Even today, both are used. I have a cousin in Roma and his last name uses the 'j' yet his brother uses the 'i'. He told me that when their births were registered, one person wrote down 'j' and another person wrote down 'i'.
Spelling is something that does not exist in Italian. My father told me that they didn't teach spelling when he went to school. In Italian, you pronounce every letter (almost always) exactly as its spelled. This led to some odd variations of names and other words. If the person hearing your name, mis-heard it slightly, it got written down wrong.
So I've learned to ignore spelling of names. 'i' and 'j' are interchangeable. Vowels on the ends of names changed all the time, in my case Frazzino became Frazzini and Carlino became Carlini.
But for sure, the hand writing is VERY VERY hard to read. On the links page on my web site, there is a link to a page that someone did showing examples of each letter of the alphabet written by an Italian hand.
In SPA, there is one hotel. http://hotel-san-pietro-avellana.7mates.com/
You could also stay in Castel di Sangro which is a larger town about 4 miles away.
We rented a car and drove from Roma to SPA. About a 3 hour drive. Driving in Italy is not as bad as they say. Driving in Roma IS pretty bad. We rented a car and picked it up at the Roma train station a 9AM on Sunday morning and then drove to the hotel, got our bags and drove directly OUT of town. On the autostrata and country roads around SPA, driving is a pleasure.
Coming back to Roma, we planned on arriving about 2PM in the middle of the 'resting' time so the streets were pretty empty.
There is train service to SPA but I don't know anything about it.
Did you see my trip report from our trip last summer: http://www.silogic.com/Italy2004/Italy2004.html
Please do send the scan of the tree if you can. If possible scan it at 300dpi and save it as a GIF or TIF file. That would be best
for for written text.
If you have any photos of SPA or even people from SPA, I would really like those as well. If its ok with you, I might use them on the web site. If you can scan those at 300dpi and save them as JPG files. (Boy, I am really a pain, aren't I?).
On my web page there is a "hints" page about what to do if you want to do more research.
Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:44:47 -0600
Subject: 1914 photo taken in San Pietro
Buona sera, Mark & Shirley,
Here's a wedding photo I found with, wonder of wonders, a listing of the people on the back as well as the date of the photo. From left, Advenza Mariani, her daughter Marietta and her groom, John DiSanza, and my great aunt by marriage, Lucietta Rossi (I think she was John's sister) who was the wife of Ostillio Rossi, who was the brother of Rosina, one of Mark's direct ancestors.
The photo was given to my Aunt Mary [Mark's note: Mary Lacy, daughter of Adelmo Colaianni and Dorantina Rossi and Rayna's mother's sister] by her cousin Elsie LaBate, the daughter of Ercole LaBate, who, if I'm not mistaken, was married to Josephine, my grandfather Adelmo Colaiani's sister. The photo was dated May 27, 1914 and taken in San Pietro.
Harold (my husband) and I are going to San P in August (2006) to meet Ostillio's granddaughters. His family stayed in Italy and he went to work in America. I think he died in Pennsylvania.
"Advenza Mariani, daughter Marietta, John DiSanza, and his sister Lucia"
"Ricordi e saluti dal tuo cugino, John" followed by an
undecipherable initial, followed by "S.Pietro Avellana 27-5-1914.
A printed note regarding the photographer:
"Promiato studio fotografico
Castel di Sangro (acquila)"
Mark's note: between Dave, Rayna and I, we are coming to the conclusion that this
is not Advenza Mariani. The photo may have been annotated wrong. From Ellis Island
records and SPA microfilms, we believe that the parents of Marietta (born Maria
Beatrice Carlini in 1894) are Cosmo Damiano Carlini and Maria Domenica Labate.
|Mark's Note: in Dec of 2006, I got an email from Dave DiSanzo. Dave ( railoneadelphia.net ) told me that this John diSanza is the brother of his grandfather, Luigi diSanza, and they are the sons of Giuseppe diSanza and Santa Labate. For more on this diSanza family, click here.|
Email from John Athayde, Jun 2008:
|From: John Athayde
Subject: Ely, NV
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:04:41 -0700
My grandparents (Gabriel Perry and Ida Lombardi) were married in Ely and my grandfather was a brakeman on the Northern Nevada Railway (he started in 1942 before going into the service). His father-in-law (great-grandfather for me) was an Engineer (Henry Lombardi) and married to Giovanna diIullo. I was doing research on San Pietro Avellana (where my grandmother's ancestors are from - Musco and Lombardi) and your site hit pretty high up on google.
When I showed them they were quite excited and started pointing out people. She knows that the surname of the guy in the lower center was "Francone" (phonetic guess on my part). The man in the back is Jim Colaizzi. But they remember a lot of the people in the photographs you've posted. They also agree that the person on the right is Mike Iannacchione.
I'm starting to put stuff together from them and was looking to travel to SPA and try to do some research there. I travelled for 7 weeks in Italy during Architecture school but it was only major cities. Any recommendations from your recent travels over there?
Thanks for your emails.
I've seen Henry Lombardi's name a lot in the Ely records from the railroad. He, along with Loreto Labate, were the two locomotive
engineers from SPA. I'd be interested in any other details that your parents might remember.
May I use your emails on the web page?
My notes show that the Lombardi family originally came from Forli del Sannio (about 7 miles from SPA) but I haven't been able to trace Henry directly back to that original family.
Can you tell me more about your ancestors. I'd like to see if maybe we are related somewhere.
Do you know if Henry's name in Italy was Enrico? When was he born and who were his parents?
I've done some research also on the Musco family. Did you see my web page about Sant'Amico, the patron saint of SPA? There is a story about the Musco family who ended up in Lousiana.
Its difficult to do research in Italy. Do you speak Italian? There are records in the SPA Church going back to 1612. Have you seen the microfilmed records available from the Morman church (familysearch.org)?
I'll be looking forward to hearing from you.
Subject: Re: Ely, NV
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:42:25 -0700
You may use the emails on the web page.
Thanks on that info about Forli del Sannio. I've just started to dig back on my mom's side (my great aunt on my dad's side has 2500 names in her records, but no italians). I have a bunch of stuff back home that I will be able to dig out from last year.
I know the Perry side is from Colosumi. I also know my grandfather's uncle Gasper Gigliotti served in the US Army in WWI, also on the railroad in France. He was born in Ogden, Utah and my extended cousins still live around there (all Perrys).
On the Lombardi side, I know we have a bunch of stuff sketched out, but it's back home. I need to start putting it all into the computer. I'll do some digging and send it over when I have more.
I don't speak Italian well (I can get myself into trouble and order food), but it looks like I need to get back into it. And I'll check the microfilm records out. I have not done much but am hoping to do a lot more in the next few years while all my grandparents are alive (they are all in their mid 80s).
I did interview my grandparents last year and have that at home and that has a lot of extended information. I'm here with them for the next few days and will be trying to get more information written down.
Also, I just found my great grandfather's ellis island manifest entry. Line 15 in the attached pages. It says he was going to visit his brother-in-law, which looks like Cesare Frazzini in Ogden, Utah. I know your site has a lot of Frazzinis. My Greatgrandfather's wife's last name was Gigliotti. When they were in Ogden, they changed the spelling from Perri to Perry.
I enjoyed the photos and info you sent about Bruno Perri.
The Ellis Island manifest is really interesting. Its the first time that I've seen the surname Perri connected in any way to someone from SPA. My mother's surname was Frazzini and almost all the Frazzini's that I've ever found were from SPA.
Cesare Frazzini was the Vice Italian Counsel in Ogden around 1910. The address, 200 25th Street, was a tavern owned by the Frazzini Brothers. There is a photo of it on my Ogden web page. http://www.silogic.com/genealogy/Ogden,%20UT.html I've found dozens of Italians who used that address on their arrival manifest. The Frazzini Brothers also owned a big store and bank in Denver.
I don't know how they could be brothers-in-law. I think that I have Cesare's family pretty well worked out - but you never know.
I notice that the manifest also says that Bruno was previously in the US from 1896 to 1908 - in Colorado. I've found that manifest on Ellis Island as well. If you like, I can email it to you.
Is the town in Italy, Colosimi? I've found a town with that name in the province of Cosenza. The town is pretty far away from SPA. I couldn't imagine that the Perri's knew the Frazzini's from Italy. Any connection must be from the US.
Its been fun doing some digging along your family line. Its producing more connections for me in SPA.
Subject: Re: Ely, NV
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:35:00 -0700
In line with the Cesare reference on Bruno Perri's Ellis Island entry, I noticed his entry on your site. Gabriella DiIullo was my great Grandmother's sister (Giovanna Crucifixa DiIullo, wife of Henry Lombardi, child of Daniel DiIullo and Fortunato Mosca).
Subject: Re: Ely, NV
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:46:36 -0700
That's correct. The Perri side is from Colosimi, and he (Bruno) married a Gigliotti. It's not until his youngest son that the Di Iullo/Mosca marriage line comes in (my grandparents). My grandfather doesn't think they were actually brothers-in-law, but It was an interesting
connection for sure to see that name pop up.
From the Di Iullos (Daniel DiIullo and Fortunato Mosca - Great Great Grandparents on Mothers' Mother's side) they had eight children. Three boys and Five daughters. Giovanna was my great grandmother. Gabriella was her sister (who parried Paul Anthony Mastroianni). The Marjorie Perry in that article is my mother. The photos were all of Gabriel and Ida (my grandparents) and my mom and down to us over the years. The walls here have a lot of older photos I'm going to start scanning.
|John and I have worked out a lot of his Lombardi, diIullo and Mosca ancestors. The info can be found in my Family Tree data base.|
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