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|Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:20:21 -0500
From: Ron Frazzini <fraz0046tc.umn.edu>
Mark - Ran across your data and notes on ancestry, then looked at the web site. Some interesting links to my family. My name is Ron Frazzini. My grandfather, Damiano, was naturalized in Trinidad the same day as Emiliano, and other Frazzinis. Emiliano was my father's (Mirando Leopoldo Giuseppe Frazzini) godfather, and Ippolito was my uncle's (Albino Paolo) godfather. I found this in the church in S. Pietro Avellana from a rather grumpy, but cooperative priest. I've visited S. Pietro twice, and prowled through the records in the municipio with the help of a very cooperative bureaucrat. I've also been to Isernia to look for more records there, and have been relatively successful in piecing together something of a tree.
Damiano and Emiliano were both minors at naturalization, I believe, and according to the marriage records in S. Pietro, Damiano returned home very shortly after naturalization to be married to Giuseppa Colomba Morelli Dec. 31, 1904. Mirando and Albino followed, and the family moved back to the US to Denver around 1910. Interestingly enough, Giuseppa Morelli's mother was Lucia Carlino (or Carlini). Do you know any other surnames?
>I've read over your email a few times and you may know more about my family than I do.
>How did you know that Emiliano was your father's godfather? Was it actually from the church records?
One day after a several hour stint at Isernia in the archives, I drove back to SPA just in time to see the end of the evening mass. Seeing the priest was a suggestion of the archivist. The church is interesting in that it was about the only building in the town not destroyed in 1943 when the whole place was bombed. I was able to convince the priest to show me the records, but I had to have the specific dates, so this is not a good thing if one is not sure, and wants to just page through the records, as I did in Isernia, to find someone. He found my dad's (Mirando) and my uncle's (Albino) births, and the godfather is always listed as well as the midwife and other attendants. I did get to read the records.
|>Do you have a list of the Frazzinis that were naturalized on that faithful day in 1904?
Here is the list I found:
October 17, 1904
Damiano, Carmine, Giovanni, Emiliano, Pasquale, Vincenzo
October 20, 1904
|>How did you find that out. Maybe I can find some of their descendents.
This came from a search in the Denver naturalization records, an extremely tiring and frustrating activity. We looked for the application for naturalization which needs to be filed four years in advance, but the records were missing. These would give some relatives. The naturalization record itself is useless for any kind of data.
|>There is good chance that your grandfather's
history in CO was similar to my grandfather. Do you have any
details about where he lived or where he worked?
Here's where things become more vague than usual. I think Damiano worked the mines, and maybe on the railroad. I'm convinced that any links in our families are through the brothers of Damiano (Pasquale Antonio and Domenico Giuseppe), as well as his father Nunzio. Nunzio had two brothers (Domenico Damiano, Pasquale Filippo) who also had families that would be relevant. There were three sisters of Damiano, but due to the patriarchal Italian system, we only know what happened to women if the parents wrote the husband's name on the birth certificate, and I do have some info here. I'm sure the son of Pasquale Antonio is still living in Denver, but he won't see me, although I've talked at length to his wife. There's been some stressful things along the way that are evidently not easily forgotten.
Damiano was divorced when the boys were in their early 20s, and he moved to California. Actually spent some time in the monastery at Santa Barbara. Rumor has it he returned to SPA and was killed in 1943.
|Hi Mark - Here's what I
have on the baptisms. The information came from the church in San
Pietro by talking with the priest, and having him go to the records of
births stored in the church. You have to know specific dates for
him to do any looking at all. Emiliano was my father Mirando's
godfather at the ceremony at that church on the 26th of March,
1906. I'm guessing he was close in age to Damiano, my
grandfather, since they were both naturalized in Trinidad, Colo. the
same day, Oct. 17, 1904, as minors. I'm also guessing that they
(at least Damiano) returned to Italy shortly after that since Damiano
was married in San Pietro on Dec. 31, 1904. Names of godmothers
at the baptism ceremony were either unavailable, or thought not to be
important by the priest.
As for the baptism for Damiano, it also occurred in San Pietro. He was born to Nunzio Frazzini, and Elisabetta Quaranta June 27, 1882 according to the records in Isernia. But, here is a glitch. He would have been over 22 years old at the time of naturalization, but the papers definitely are for a minor.
Valuable links for the family will be in the identification of the children of Damiano's and Damiano's father's brothers and sisters. I have their names, but ran out of time to search the marriage and birth records for any children of aunts and uncles. Damiano's father's name was Nunzio, and Nunzio's brothers and sisters were Pasquale Filippo,
Domenico Damiano, Maria Luisa, and Giovanna Francesca, all born between 1844 and 1859.
Some of this info may now be available via Salt Lake, but I haven't had the time to look.
|My grandfather, Emiliano Frazzini, was naturalized at the District Court of the County of Las Animas in Trinidad, Colorado on 17 Oct 1904 by Judge Jesse G. Northcutt. He was naturalized as a minor as he would have been 18 years old in October of 1904. On the back is a affidavit that this is a true and correct copy, the affidavit is dated 30th Sept 1916. The back is also stamped "Passport Application Taken Apr 1 1925, American Consulate General, Rome, Italy". The Naturalizaton was witnessed by Donato Danio Carlino and Andrea Putaturo|
Donato Danio Carlino
My guess is that this man named "Donato Danio Carlino" who was a witness to the naturalization of my grandfather, Emiliano Frazzini, was really Donatangelo Carlino, the son of Beniamino Carlino and Giovanna Quaranta, born 21 Dec 1964. I believe the "Danio", which is not an Italian name or an Americanization, is a mis-transcription of Antonio.
I just did a check of Ellis Island and there are two records for him, 1899 and 1904. His first name is written Donatangelo each time BUT for the 1904 entry, the name Antonio is written above the "angelo" part of the name. By 1899, he was a US citizen and had been in the US from 1881 to 1898. In 1904, he arrived with his wife Cristina and daughters, Iola and Elena.
He was born Donatangelo but here in the US, he was known as Donato Antonio. He appears in the ancestry of Cathy Madonna Youngblood on the Frazzini Graphical Tree Part 3 and in my family tree database. A report by Cathy is available here.
US Census 1900 > COLORADO > PITKIN > 21-PCT
Series: T623 Roll: 128 Page: 290
Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year
CARLINO DONOTO ANTONIO 36 M W ITAL CO PITKIN 21-PCT 1900
He died in 1910 at age 45 years and is buried in the Highland Cemetery, New Castle, Garfield County, Colorado.
An Andrea "Pataturo" arrived at Ellis Island at age 21y on 6 Apr 1896 on the Furst Bismark. Other Putaturo's arriving at Ellis Island were mostly from the town of Carovilli - which is nearby to SPA. (manifest page reference : Series M237, Roll 656, Frame 466 - on the Furst Bismark, going to New York)
|17 Oct 1904||Emiliano Frazzini||371 - my grandfather. In my family tree database. Born 15 Feb 1886|
|17 Oct 1904||Amico Quaranta||380 - In my family tree database. Born about 1881 (SPA birth records are missing for that year)|
|17 Oct 1904||Felice Ricci||296|
|17 Oct 1904||Vincenzo diLorenzo||311 - notation on record: "died at Dawson 8 Feb 1923" was recorded on 23 Mar 1935. In my family tree database. Born about 1881 SPA birth records are missing for that year.|
|17 Oct 1904||Gio Fundy||326 - Acquafondata??|
|17 Oct 1904||Giovanni Frazzini||328|
|17 Oct 1904||Damiano Frazzini||329 - my grandfather had a photo of one of Damiano's sons. Look on this web page for more. In my family tree database. Born about 1882.|
|17 Oct 1904||Pasquale Frazzini||334|
|17 Oct 1904||Carmine Frazzini||352 - this is possibly the Carmine, born 1881, who married Maria Antonia Carlini and lived in Dawson, NM. That Carmine died in 1912 in Dawson.|
|17 Oct 1904||Saverio diLorenzo||354 - In my family tree database. Born 2 Aug 1874. 1902 - referenced in Boston Manifest, 1 Jun 1902, of brother Vincenzo, going to Trinidad, CO.|
|17 Oct 1904||Antonio Ludovico||355 - I can't find this man in the SPA birth records.|
|17 Oct 1904||Umberto Ludovico||379 - I can't find this man in the SPA birth records.|
|17 Oct 1904||Giuseppe diGiacomo||382 - notation on record: "Cancelled 4 Apr 1932 - returned to Italy"|
|20 Oct 1904||Domenico Frazzini||426|
|20 Oct 1904||Emiddio Frazzini||I didn't actually find this record but Ron Frazzini reported finding it.|
|Date||Name||Page||Arrived in US|
|17 Oct 1904||Orland Piscaitano||134 - notatation on record: "lost citizenship 17 Jun 1955" - probably returned to Italy. In my family tree database. Born 8 Oct 1882.||3 Jul 1900 - per the 1900 census, he arrived in the US in 1900 and by the time of the census, he was here for 6 months.|
|17 Oct 1904||Vincenzo Frazzini||109 - In my family tree database. Born 9 Oct 1873. Lived in Denver. WWI draft registration shows US citizen. Buried at Crown Hill.||23 Apr 1900 - I have an EI record that shows 6 Apr 1898. 1930 census shows immigrated 1902.|
|17 Oct 1904||Gaetano Mariani||101||7 Jul 1901|
|17 Oct 1904||Quirino Tonti||108||2 Jul 1900|
|27 Oct 1904||Domenico Lombardi||Not actually found in these records. I found a 4 May 1915 EI arrival at 46y which shows him as a citizen on this date in Las Animas County. He as going to Ely, NV. He is the father of Enrico "Henry" Lombardi who was an engineer for the NNRY.|
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